Violet
Oct 29 2004, 03:14 PM
Times OnlineTO THE soothing strains of Enya and Beethoven’s Ode to Joy, leaders from the 25 states of the enlarged European Union put aside the turmoil over the new European Commission yesterday to sign the EU’s first constitution. (read the artice) You can find the video on
this page, then click on "25 firme storiche", the last video at the bottom of the page.
Don't know to who Nicky should ask for copyright loyalties in this case

but it's great to listen an Enya song right before the European national anthem (Beethoven's "Ode to Joy"), it makes me feel so proud of both Enya and Europe
DarkBlue
Oct 29 2004, 04:24 PM
Wonderful surprise... "Enya"
Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" is the European national anthem...
and Enya is the right choice to begin a new adventure in this EU constitution.
I immagine that they have chosen this artist and this song to represent the new thought of Europe...
This is an historical event... So "How Can i Keep from Singing?"
DavesWorld56
Oct 29 2004, 06:12 PM
How do you make the video play? I clicked on 56k, and all i got wasa popup window with some Italian words about Real Audio or something.
Violet
Oct 29 2004, 06:24 PM
I clicked on "Adsl" then I had to wait few seconds for the video to load.
Violet
Oct 31 2004, 11:43 AM
Ineed a great event. To have one of her songs plaied during such a great historical moment is far more important than to have it plaied during Olimpic Games IMHO.
I decided to post a photo of the delegation who signed the EU Constitution for each country represented by members of our forum.
...And they all were listening Enya 

Signature by the Irish Delegation

Signature by the French Delegation

Signature by the Spanish Delegation

Signature by the Italian Delegation

[I feruse to post a photo of Silvio Berlusconi on "my" forum]
Signature by the German Delegation

Signature by the Lithuanian Delegation
Violet
Oct 31 2004, 11:51 AM
Signature by the Hungarian Delegation

Signature by the Polish Delegation

Signature by the Swedish Delegation

Signature by the UK Delegation

Signature by the Portuguese Delegation

...if I forgot someone please let me know of feel free to post a photo yourself.
Niphredil
Oct 31 2004, 10:32 PM
Cool Violet! Really, I hope they paid attention to the music... Wonder whose idea it was, he/she has a great taste for sure!
DavesWorld56
Oct 31 2004, 11:43 PM
Maybe someone can translate for me. When I click on ADSLall i get is a new window that is solid black all except for this message:
"Scarica il lettore gratuito Real Player
Quando hai finito di installare il programma
clicca qui per ascoltare l'audio "
And a close button. I have yet to be able to see the video. Any suggestions Violet?
Violet
Nov 1 2004, 09:00 AM
hmmm...It seems like you need Real Player to watch the video.
The message says: "Download for free Real Player, when you finished installing it click here to listen the audio"
The video is edited and you can only see German, Spanish and Italian

(how can I keep from

at Belrusconi? ) delegations signing the book. Then the music changes when Blair signs for UK and the European national anthem starts.
DavesWorld56
Nov 1 2004, 09:01 AM
I have the latest download of real player so there must be some other problem. Maybe because I'm in the U.S. they won't let me see it..
Violet
Nov 1 2004, 09:23 AM
| QUOTE (Niphredil @ Oct 31 2004, 11:32 PM) |
| Cool Violet! Really, I hope they paid attention to the music... Wonder whose idea it was, he/she has a great taste for sure! |
I don't know if they paied attention to the music but for sure they will remember that moment and that music for ever
It seems like the ceremony has been managed by Rome's Mayor Walter Veltroni and the town council

maybe together with the Italian Republic's official ceremonial committee and the Foreign Office
Violet
Nov 1 2004, 09:28 AM
| QUOTE (DavesWorld56 @ Nov 1 2004, 10:01 AM) |
I have the latest download of real player so there must be some other problem. Maybe because I'm in the U.S. they won't let me see it.. |
I think you are right, they won't citizens of United States of America to enjoy the magnificence of United Europe

...or maybe it's because the video is PAL instead of NTSC?
Endymion
Nov 1 2004, 11:50 PM
To be honest I dont understand this topic.
Why you posted a link that nothing works on it?
"I decided to post a photo of the delegation who signed the EU Constitution for each country represented by members of our forum.
...And they all were listening Enya "
?? Where?? how you know that?
I'm confuse
Violet
Nov 2 2004, 08:39 AM
I found another link for the video, but it's the full version of the ceremony

it shows various speeches, the arrival of various delegations, Rome's landscapes, various delegations moving from a room to another and other stuff in real time so you have to wait about 15/20 minutes before they start signing...and Enya starts singing.
But it's interesting because it also shows Enya was probably the only music they chose as a soundtrack for the signing, but since it took about 30 minutes for the 25 delegations to sign, they added some other classical music (forgive my ignorance please, I don't know authors). Anyway, the ceremony started with "How Can I Keep From Singing?" and it has been plaied again and again several times

So you have the patience to wait and watch the rest of the video this is the right
link...and it's Windows Media Player
DavesWorld56
Nov 2 2004, 08:48 AM
Thanks Violet.
Violet
Nov 2 2004, 08:55 AM
Can you make the video play this time?
Violet
Nov 2 2004, 10:06 AM
| QUOTE (Endymion @ Nov 2 2004, 12:50 AM) |
To be honest I dont understand this topic. Why you posted a link that nothing works on it?
"I decided to post a photo of the delegation who signed the EU Constitution for each country represented by members of our forum.
...And they all were listening Enya "
?? Where?? how you know that?
I'm confuse |
This topic is about Enya and the great news that her music was the soundtrack for the signing of the European first constitution.
I'm sorry you are confused and you can't watch the video. Try the other link I posted or read the following article.
Times OnlineTO THE soothing strains of Enya and Beethoven’s Ode to Joy, leaders from the 25 states of the enlarged European Union put aside the turmoil over the new European Commission yesterday to sign the EU’s first constitution. (read the artice)
Endymion
Nov 2 2004, 04:17 PM
Yeah and I think I never was so proud of having our ex-prime minister becaming the President of it.
Violet
Nov 2 2004, 05:11 PM
You are talking about Barroso I guess. Glad to see you finally got the topic Endymion
Is there anyone here who can download the streaming from this link (and send it to me obviously)? I can't find a streaming downloader for Mac
http://www.uninettuno.it/nettuno/costituzi...rer/ENVideo.htm
Endymion
Nov 2 2004, 09:14 PM
Can I ask someting??
How you know that Enya was heard from that building ? Someone could put the music together when the video was already made.
If they heard Enya then the Irish Prime Minister must be proud of her
Violet
Nov 2 2004, 09:28 PM
| QUOTE (Endymion @ Nov 2 2004, 10:14 PM) |
Can I ask someting?? How you know that Enya was heard from that building ? Someone could put the music together when the video was already made. |
I was there. There were me and Oneofakind signing for Enyaland
Violet
Nov 2 2004, 10:06 PM
...and if you check the video you notice it has been filmed with live audio
DavesWorld56
Nov 2 2004, 11:08 PM
| QUOTE (Violet @ Nov 2 2004, 03:55 AM) |
| Can you make the video play this time? |
Yes although the volume was way low I did get to see and hear it finally. Thanks again.
To answer someones question you could tell the music was playing in the hall becuase of the way it echoed just like th announcers voice did.
Here's the video link all by itself Violet. It is too big for me to email it to you though:
EU Constituiton Signing Ceremony VideoEnya's song starts around the 40 minute mark.
Endymion
Nov 3 2004, 12:14 AM
I notice the echo of the building but I said that because the classic music we heard there it also been heard outside when they are walking and also on the beginning when they are talking and showing the statues,and changing the song in the middle of the melody.
davyd
Nov 4 2004, 11:01 PM
Enya didn't write HCIKFS but it was nonetheless a feather in The Trio's collective cap to have Eithne's voice(s) heard at such a momentous occaision.

Best wishes for peace and prosperity to all EU Enya friends!
Violet
Nov 5 2004, 09:44 AM
Lyrics for HCIKFS are traditional but the music is Enya. Am I wrong?
davyd
Nov 6 2004, 01:16 AM
| QUOTE (Violet @ Nov 5 2004, 09:44 AM) |
| Lyrics for HCIKFS are traditional but the music is Enya. Am I wrong? |
The melody is also "traditional". The arrangement, which includes the vocalized (non-word) passages, is the only element of the song that is by Enya.
Violet
Nov 6 2004, 09:02 AM
Really? I didn't know that. Where did you get this info?
davyd
Nov 7 2004, 05:27 AM
| QUOTE (Violet @ Nov 6 2004, 09:02 AM) |
| Really? I didn't know that. Where did you get this info? |
Various sources, including but not limited to:
- The liner notes with the SM album
- Roma's comments in the SM sheet music folio
- A church hymnal that contains the melody
- Various websites that offer lyrics & translations
- Discussions of the copyright lawsuit filed over Enya's interpretation
Granted, none of these explicitly states that the melody isn't by Eithne; if they make an explicit statement at all, it is that the melody is 'traditional'. That's good enough for me, and while of course I acknowledge the right of others to feel differently, I would challenge them to provide some sort of documentation to back up other claims.
In other words: if someone believes the melody to be by Eithne, I claim that it's their job to prove that it is, not my job to prove that it isn't.
DavesWorld56
Nov 7 2004, 05:29 AM
Isn't HCIKFS a Quaker Hymn written in the 1850's? That's what I always read about it.
The song was made popular in the 1950's by Pete Seeger.
Violet
Nov 7 2004, 10:02 AM
You are right Davyd, I forgot that but it is written in Roma's notes from Shepherd Moons sheet music book (and to think I personally added those notes to the page for HCIKFS lyrics at enyafans.net

...ah! the age!)
Roma Ryan's notes to the song, taken from Shepherd Moons sheet music book:This is based on an old Shaker hymn which I suggested as a suitable addition to the album, not only because of the beautiful melody, but the lyrical content seems as relevant today as it did 250 years ago when the hymn was written.
It is unfortunate that the Shakers are known to the world at large mainly for their ability to build and design beautiful furniture. The Shakers also wrote beautiful music and songs with which they glorified their joy in living. They lived very simple lives and their melodies reflect the beauty inherent in this simplicity.
It is not widely known that in 1846 the Shakers sent food to Ireland in an attempt to relieve the suffering during the famine, and this also held significance in our decision to arrange the piece.
davyd
Nov 16 2004, 08:07 PM
| QUOTE (oneofakind @ Nov 3 2004, 01:49 PM) |
| QUOTE (Violet @ Nov 2 2004, 09:28 PM) | I was there. There were me and Oneofakind signing for Enyaland |
and we did a very good job of signing too. and to think i wasn't nervous enough to mispell my name  by the way i also thought i did well in harmony |
So does this mean that Enyaland is now part of the EU? Or is the EU now part of Enyaland?
All your base are belong to ENYA!
Violet
Nov 18 2004, 08:42 PM
It's EU that is now part of Enyaland, obviously

They asked "Can you please include our 25 countries in the online land of Enya?"
Oneofakind answered: "umm...let me think about it."
I said: "I don't know, we must ask our members first and then I also need Ces' opinion on this."
Then they said: "We promise we will play Enya all the time during the signing of the constitution if you accept."
At this point we accepted and said :" OK!"
Ethlinn
Nov 20 2004, 03:04 AM
LOL,Violet.
Violet
Nov 23 2004, 07:51 PM
Yes, it was a funny situation
DavesWorld56
Nov 27 2004, 10:38 AM
I found proof that Violet was at the EU Constitution signing:
Violet
Nov 27 2004, 01:31 PM
Ethlinn
Nov 28 2004, 03:10 AM
DavesWorld56
Nov 28 2004, 05:21 AM
Thanks. I couldn't resist...
Quietguy
Nov 29 2004, 03:14 PM

I was completely surprised that Enya's idea to use the Ode to Joy" as the European national anthem. I did not know that Enya supported for European Nation. Does that inspired to everyone for that song?

She seems helping people for peace and freedom. Correct?

Well, sound like it is good idea for the people who having trouble with neogiation for all European countries. Let me know for sure! Thanks!
Ethlinn
Nov 30 2004, 06:32 AM
| QUOTE (Quietguy @ Nov 29 2004, 03:14 PM) |
I was completely surprised that Enya's idea to use the Ode to Joy" as the European national anthem. I did not know that Enya supported for European Nation. Does that inspired to everyone for that song? She seems helping people for peace and freedom. Correct? Well, sound like it is good idea for the people who having trouble with neogiation for all European countries. Let me know for sure! Thanks! |
Quietguy
Nov 30 2004, 11:39 PM
| QUOTE (Ethlinn @ Nov 30 2004, 06:32 AM) |
| QUOTE (Quietguy @ Nov 29 2004, 03:14 PM) | I was completely surprised that Enya's idea to use the Ode to Joy" as the European national anthem. I did not know that Enya supported for European Nation. Does that inspired to everyone for that song? She seems helping people for peace and freedom. Correct? Well, sound like it is good idea for the people who having trouble with neogiation for all European countries. Let me know for sure! Thanks! |
|
Well...can you explain what does EU Constitution is all about? Let me know so that I can find out what is this all about. Because our USA does not get all those languages from Europe. Sorry about that.
Ethlinn
Dec 1 2004, 03:11 AM
It wasn't Enya's idea to choose ode to joy as the anthem,as far as I know. Well,I really dunno how to explain,I'm a bad teacher,so maybe the veteran ogre-helpers here can help.
davyd
Dec 1 2004, 05:02 AM
Quietguy
Dec 1 2004, 01:27 PM
Thank you Davyd! I really appreciated your kindness!
blue_angel19
Dec 18 2004, 12:13 PM
To be honest I like Beethoven very much and I wouldn't like to seem Ode of Joy changed.
And I don't find any song in Enya's repertorium to replace such a suitable song as Ode of Joy to be the oda for EU.
But I would like to hear how it would sound.It's crazy but interesting.Hmmmm!!
Claus
Violet
Dec 18 2004, 07:39 PM
None changed Beethoven's Ode To Joy and the original version is still the EU national anthem.
Quietguy
Dec 18 2004, 08:23 PM
| QUOTE (Violet @ Dec 18 2004, 07:39 PM) |
| None changed Beethoven's Ode To Joy and the original version is still the EU national anthem. |
Violet! What does having to do with Beethoven involved with Eithine? It sounds like that the national constitution for all European make united without any opposition each other. Am I right?
Violet
Dec 18 2004, 08:28 PM
| QUOTE (Quietguy @ Dec 18 2004, 09:23 PM) |
| Violet! What does having to do with Beethoven involved with Eithine? |
blue_angel19
Dec 18 2004, 11:14 PM
| QUOTE (Quietguy @ Dec 18 2004, 10:23 PM) |
Violet! What does having to do with Beethoven involved with Eithine? It sounds like that the national constitution for all European make united without any opposition each other. Am I right? |
I tell you what:nothing.But still Beethoven,may sound crazy but I think he could be a source of inspiration to Enya.I'm positive about that.
Claus
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